Channel Awesome is an absolutely godawful horror show
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Haha oh god You'd think they'd just sit it out and let the shit pass by after their awful non-apology did them more harm than good (I'm certain a bunch of their fans only heard about the situation because of said awful non-apology)The Doctor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:44 am"Know what would help this whole thing blow over? Another terrible response!"
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/
And we're totally not a misogynistic place. That's why our response only names women.
Especially considering they got basically nothing to gain at this point? A lot of their creators already left, so it's not like this will convince any of those dozens of folks to un-leave?
Haha goddamn
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Also up to this point, Tamara and Malcolm stayed out of the matter and only said they enjoy working at Channel Awesome, which is fair enough, they do the skits with Doug and if they are being paid a fair wage and enjoy themselves sure thing, that's different from the contributors who made their own videos and weren't paid a salary
but now Tamara and Malcolm are tweeting in defense of CA and considering that's essentially a 180 on their behaviour up to this point and I dunno how much of that is on their own volition and how much is pressure from their bosses, it's really shitty either way
but now Tamara and Malcolm are tweeting in defense of CA and considering that's essentially a 180 on their behaviour up to this point and I dunno how much of that is on their own volition and how much is pressure from their bosses, it's really shitty either way
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It's basically "Our bosses are actually really great you guys and all those bad people are mean!!" and it just makes everything so much uglier than it has to be
EDIT: I wish this was hyperbole but they literally responded to people with shit like "facts over feelings!" and "you don't know anything!" and it's genuinely shit-tastic
EDIT: I wish this was hyperbole but they literally responded to people with shit like "facts over feelings!" and "you don't know anything!" and it's genuinely shit-tastic
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"We paid you in exposure, you all knew that! Therefor it's k"
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"We have a policy against abuse! And we helped this person with ONE abusive commenter! Therefor it's k"
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These people promised many many things in the past to adress issues over the last 10 (!!) years and now people are supposed to believe they will do sensitivity training (whatever that entails in this case)
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I apologize for all the posts but I'm utterly baffled and fascinated by this horrid response and total 180° on the side of CA and I see a lot of the people involved in the situation are too
Like Dan said, people would have moved on soon and the Nostalgia Critic could have retained his 1 mil+ subscribers on Youtube, he lost a few 10k and a lot of contributors to the site but since said contributors were given so little support and PR anyway it cannot possibly be a big deal for CA? They could have just been stoic dicks some more, left it at their already ill advised non-apology, and trucked along with their still pretty sizable audience, who cares if their reputation was shit among other content producers now considering they didn't enjoy hiring any to begin with
But no, instead it's suddenly this "YOU ARE ALL BAD AND LYING!!!" shit and siccing their (paid!) employees onto the situation when before they just said their piece and kept their heads out of it and it's just so utterly tone deaf and stupid???
What are they hoping to win? That rebutting all the evil women will totally fix their reputation and convince everyone CA is, actually, a super great place to work that totally cares about its video producers and has always treated them fairly and adressed abuse well and aw gawrsh they're just totally fine and the womz are just "wrong and vindictive"
Like Dan said, people would have moved on soon and the Nostalgia Critic could have retained his 1 mil+ subscribers on Youtube, he lost a few 10k and a lot of contributors to the site but since said contributors were given so little support and PR anyway it cannot possibly be a big deal for CA? They could have just been stoic dicks some more, left it at their already ill advised non-apology, and trucked along with their still pretty sizable audience, who cares if their reputation was shit among other content producers now considering they didn't enjoy hiring any to begin with
But no, instead it's suddenly this "YOU ARE ALL BAD AND LYING!!!" shit and siccing their (paid!) employees onto the situation when before they just said their piece and kept their heads out of it and it's just so utterly tone deaf and stupid???
What are they hoping to win? That rebutting all the evil women will totally fix their reputation and convince everyone CA is, actually, a super great place to work that totally cares about its video producers and has always treated them fairly and adressed abuse well and aw gawrsh they're just totally fine and the womz are just "wrong and vindictive"
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This is literally just about their bruised egos because their ongoing mismanagement and disrespect that lasted for, again, 10 (!!!!) years had numerous chances to be adressed and they never took any and NOW they are mad it came back to hurt them
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Well at the very latest, NOW they look like they are bad at managing the site in a very public way so uuuh good job
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Poor Lindsay, just a few days ago, was all like "okay here are my FINAL thoughts on CA shit, after that I'm done ever talking about them again" and it feels like the CA folks saw that as a challenge and welp here we are
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people were ready to move on and kept telling their followers they didn't want harassment or slap fights re: Channel Awesome and then Channel Awesome was like "DID SOMEONE SAY SLAP FIGHT?!?" and cannonballed into the pool with one of those giant foam hands you get at football games
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This is the single most disconcerting part, why single out Pregler saying she didn't have fun with a clip of her saying she had fun, why is that a refutation that you had to make and why make it public
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Are there any potential court cases to come out of this, or is it just drama?
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Someone on the Resetera forums was saying Lindsay tweeting out something about a lawsuit, but the tweet was deleted.
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do it, give em hell
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Ex-CA Fans: It's starting to die down, finally.
CA: Let's see if we can KEEP THIS SHIT GOING! *pours napalm on the fire*
CA: Let's see if we can KEEP THIS SHIT GOING! *pours napalm on the fire*
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can't wait for next week's stupid non-apology where they just straight up call Lindsay a bitch or whatever.
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I wonder if those kinds of people are coming out in support of CA?
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They are.West Filly wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:06 pmI wonder if those kinds of people are coming out in support of CA?
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Wait, what about Tim Buckley? Is that just a crack about what an atrocious writer and artist he was, because LOL INTARWEBS DRAMA, or did he actually do something that managed to slip past me all these years?
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Accusations and murmurs abound but nothing nearly as hard as Channel Awesome.
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(Technically, one man (Sean Fausz) was named/"rebutted", but still, it was mostly focused on women. Additionally, the part about Sean Fausz is quite sketchy, given it states that Michaud didn't even fire Ellis, and that, instead, he resigned. Also, I may not be reading this right, but does "no contact from Michael Ellis was attempted after the conversation was reported to Michael Michaud" mean that Michaud never acted upon Sean's report, or that Ellis stopped talking to Sean after the incident? If it's the first way, that looks awful on Michaud. If it's the second, Sean mentioned it in the document, so this part of the sentence doesn't add anything.)The Doctor wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:44 amAnd we're totally not a misogynistic place. That's why our response only names women.
I have no idea how they somehow made this worse, but yeah, they made this worse. Each time they respond, public opinion seems to just sway further and further away from Channel Awesome, so if they have any more responses planned, I can only see this getting worse for them.
I almost wonder if this whole thing was posted on their site to not just try to (somehow) "redeem" themselves, but also get clicks on the site. I kinda regret visiting there to read their response now.
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I don't know. I wonder if Channel Awesome knows the kind of people who will defend it now and whether it will try to cater to them. Majority public opinion for them is completely impossible to salvage at this point, but they might survive financially if they embrace their misogyny and become channel braaaah.
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A thread with good insights from Linkara (click through)
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Shocking how the people who were wrong are acting like more reasonable and human folks than the people who had, still, 10 (!?!?!?!) fucking years to improve and seemingly never have
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I can just post basically any reaction from Lindsay because I find all of them very relatable and she seems to be as baffled as me
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The last heavy hitter internet person on the site, Angry Joe, has left now too
Also one of the skit actors said vague shit like "the truth will be revealed" so I'm guessing Channel Awesome plan to double down further on this shit, OH BOY that sure is a GOOD IDEA
Also one of the skit actors said vague shit like "the truth will be revealed" so I'm guessing Channel Awesome plan to double down further on this shit, OH BOY that sure is a GOOD IDEA
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They've already repeated so many of the Escapist's mistakes, why stop now?West Filly wrote: ↑Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:10 pmI don't know. I wonder if Channel Awesome knows the kind of people who will defend it now and whether it will try to cater to them. Majority public opinion for them is completely impossible to salvage at this point, but they might survive financially if they embrace their misogyny and become channel braaaah.
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They're digging such a deep hole I'm trying to find some way of making "Tunnel Awesome" funny.
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A poster on ResetERA points out how that person who passed out during an anniversary movie stunt likely almost died
This is why you have professional personnel and some kind of health support on site when you film!!!!! Almost like that's a good thing!!!!!!!!!
This is why you have professional personnel and some kind of health support on site when you film!!!!! Almost like that's a good thing!!!!!!!!!
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oh good lord I'm still catching up and the name of the creator who was alleged by the "Jane Doe" in the document to have sexually groomed her has been confirmed by Holly, the former HR person
it's here but read at your own peril because holy shit (BIG FAT WARNING for discussion of rape, sexual grooming, and suicide at the source and at the Reddit link; also obviously be respectful and whatnot and don't speculate on sensitive shit)
it's here but read at your own peril because holy shit (BIG FAT WARNING for discussion of rape, sexual grooming, and suicide at the source and at the Reddit link; also obviously be respectful and whatnot and don't speculate on sensitive shit)
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